February 22, 2017

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Rebuttal To Gary Bauer’s We Can Do Better Than Ron Paul Video

Gary Bauer recently came out with a video telling his followers that “We can do better than Ron Paul.” Of course this is expected from Mr. Bauer if you know a little about his background and support of war and the killing of Muslims.

The following (below) is my email exchange with Gary Bauer, founder of a Christian website “Our American Values” that we had in October of 2007, leading up to the 2008 Presidential election. My goal was to understand where this Christian man, and former Presidential candidate (2000) was coming from in his desire to go to war and kill Muslims.

You may or may not be aware that it was Gary Bauer’s signature on a letter in 1998 to then President Bill Clinton, and another letter to Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich the same year, encouraging them to attack Iraq. They of course finally got their wishes with George W. Bush in office and in 2003 Gary Bauer and other clergy sent Bush a letter, thanking him for attacking Iraq.

The other names on the letters to Clinton were one’s you may recognize: Elliott Abrams,  Richard L. Armitage,  William J. Bennett, Jeffrey Bergner,  John Bolton, Paula Dobriansky, Francis Fukuyama, Robert Kagan,  Zalmay Khalilzad, William Kristol, Richard Perle, Peter W. Rodman, Donald Rumsfeld, William Schneider, Jr.,  Vin Weber, Paul Wolfowitz, R. James Woolsey, and Robert B. Zoellick.
I sure would like to see the investment portfolios of all these signatories leading up to this Bush attack on Iraq, but of course we’ll never see that side of things. On that same note, most probably don’t realize that Congress can invest on foreknowledge of events (called insider trading for the rest of us, and punishable by prison) without recourse. But that’s another issue….back to Gary Bauer’s Christian message.
Here is what Gary Bauer had to say about Ron Paul and his foreign policy of wanting peace;

Of course no one can comment on that youtube video as Bauer has the comment section turned off. That’s how the elitist want it. Their opinion shared without rebuttal. Their way or the highway as our parents told us…except we’re not children any longer and we can fight back with our words and votes. But going on the attack against a candidate like Paul goes against what Reagan said in 1981;

Q. Mr. President, do you approve of conservative fund-raising groups such as NCPAC [National Conservative Political Action Committee] making these expensive television commercials targeting liberal Democrats for defeat in the next election?

The President. I don’t really know how to answer that, because the game of politics is trying to win an election. And I’ve never seen the time when both parties have not been doing everything they can to win an election.

I think one of the things that does not set too well with me is that to campaign before there is a candidate on your side means that you’re campaigning totally in a negative way. And I’ve always believed that you campaign by stressing what it is your candidate would do and your approval of it.

This is the problem many of those who support Ron Paul had in 2007/2008 and 2011/2012. Those of us who want freedom, peace, less government resulting in less taxes know where Ron Paul stands on these issues and how he has stood for 30 years. The problem the other Republicans have is in a one on one debate choosing their candidate versus Ron Paul. Romney, Santorum, and Gingrich, have all voted or approved of more government and wars. Everything they stand for is detrimental to the economic future of not just the United States, but to our youth. That’s why you see the majority of the young today backing and voting for Ron Paul. THEY DON’T WANT TO GO TO WAR. THEY CAN SEE HOW BLEAK THE FUTURE IS AND WHAT THE BILL THEY HAVE TO PAY WILL BE. THEY WANT REAL CHANGE, NOT EMPTY PROMISES OF CHANGE!
Ron Paul’s Christian and Constitutional Foreign Policy
Ron Paul simply wants our Congress to abide by what they swore to uphold before marching off to war at the request of insiders who more than likely profit nicely from war investments (don’t think they don’t as it’s been going on since the Rothschild’s). Ron Paul wants the troops home protecting our borders, not the borders of 130 other nations. Ron Paul understands that we are bankrupting our nation with this “new” Republican party’s foreign policy. It sure as heck isn’t the foreign policy of our parents and grand parents. Some of you may recall it was the Republicans who got us out of Korea and Vietnam…but not before losing over 50,000 American lives in each war. But we had a draft then. Try and instill a draft today and see what Evangelicals keep suggesting we “march to war.” Perhaps they then would turn to understanding that Jesus loved the “whole world.” not just Christians and especially not just Christians who impress upon us that a Presidential candidate is “isolationist” when all he wants us to do is trade with our neighbors rather than bomb them. This is “non-interventionist,” not isolationist. Know the difference.
Ron Paul and Israel
Paul was in Congress when Israel bombed Iraq’s Osirak nuclear plant in 1981 and—unlike the United Nations and the Reagan administration—defended its right to do so. Iran hasn’t been in a war since the U.S. backed Saddam Hussein against them 30 years ago. You might recall that the U.S. also backed Osama bin Laden against Russia in Afghanistan. So lets recap; Saddam turned against us and we attack Iraq. Osama bin Laden turned against us and we attacked Afghanistan (not Saudi Arabia where most of the hijackers came from). Why do these people change their minds about the U.S.? That’s a serious question to think about.
Where are your priorities right now America? Is it allowing our leaders to play havoc with our good name or is to “love thy neighbor as thyself” and trade with them and get our economy back on track? This election you have to make that decision. Status quo, more wars (guaranteed) and submitting our children to future drafts, or a Presidential candidate, the only one, who wants peace? Don’t listen to the media, make up your own mind about what’s best for our country.
If you listen to Gary Bauer and those who want us to go to war, you know what’s coming….
I had a few exchanges with Gary Bauer before this final one below. I would use Bible versus to back up what I say and he would just give me his opinion. You’ll see below he speaks of Christian Just War Theory, but doesn’t ever quote from the Bible supporting his words. This leads me only to the conclusion that he has another agenda. Maybe that’s why he is always asking for donations in his daily emails.
My Email Exchange With Gary Bauer in 2007
Here here is the email exchange I had with Gary Bauer in 2007. I pressed him for Biblical answers to his call for war. He chose to end the conversation instead.
I have highlighted the responses of Gary Bauer in bold italics.
Hi Gary,
One question… Do you hate the radical Muslims you mention (Al Qaeda, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah and Hamas); or do you love them as God has commanded?
Doug Eberhardt
Gary Bauer – AV <gary.bauer@amvalues.org> wrote:
I want them dead before they kill more Americans—what do you want?
- Gary

From: Doug Eberhardt [mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:12 AM
To: Gary Bauer – AV
Subject: RE: End of Day 10-12-07
As a Christian, which verse or verses in the Bible do you base this statement on?
Thanks,
Doug Eberhardt
Gary Bauer – AV <gary.bauer@amvalues.org> wrote:
After you have read a book or two on the Christian basis for “just war,” I’ll answer your question. What Biblical basis do you have to allow evil men to live so they can kill more innocents?
- Gary

From: Doug Eberhardt [mailto:xxxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:07 PM
To: Gary Bauer – AV
Subject: RE: End of Day 10-12-07
Gary ,
Answering my question with another question is not an appropriate response. Again, “which verse or verses in the Bible do you base this statement on?”
It’s a simple question and I’m sure you, as a Christian, know that the answers come from one Book, The Bible.

Doug Eberhardt




Gary Bauer – AV <xxxxxxxxxx@amvalues.org> wrote:

Doug, you are in no position to instruct me on either theology or what is an appropriate response to a question. Our conversation is over.
-Gary
You’re right. But the Bible does and you refuse to utilize it to justify your statement.
Blessings,
Doug Eberhardt

 

UPDATE 1/11/2012 Gary Bauer chooses Rick Santorum as his conservative candidate for President.  Santorum, like Romney, would bomb Iran. This is no surprise if you knew how much Gary Bauer likes war.